Visit to En Zainal on Sun Aug 19th 2012, met Pn Zainal and some of their 5 sons, 2 daughters, 27 grandchildren, 2 great-grandchildren and in-laws. Ain (younger daughter who works in my bank) and Nallie (elder daughter), who used to climb Gunung Nuang with us, were with us that day as well as his 1st 2 sons.